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not to say that we would not have used the concourse, but that could be a place that we could use it in the future, it is unfortunate that was a place to know if they were selecting that site this year or last year and this could be the final year and it is regrettable. it is a very large, kind of warehouse spait and it is not worth preserving but it is one of those spaces of the type and size in the city. but it is primarily used for a lot of big events because there are not a lot of big spaces for those sort of events. it is regrettable and it is not this project sponsor's fault for the concourse not letting people snow but what is regrettable. i am in support of property ject as well. i don't know if where you are in your talks are being bought out i actually got a text while you guys were asking me questions. we are going to build it as we designed it. >> great. >> so everybody can. >> so they are watching and they are paying attention. that is good. i mean for the future reference, and i don't know how they have in the pipeline in the immediate future, but if i were the buyers i
not to say that we would not have used the concourse, but that could be a place that we could use it in the future, it is unfortunate that was a place to know if they were selecting that site this year or last year and this could be the final year and it is regrettable. it is a very large, kind of warehouse spait and it is not worth preserving but it is one of those spaces of the type and size in the city. but it is primarily used for a lot of big events because there are not a lot of big...
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makes it impossible for the people to use that area because they can't sit down there or use the space if it is not a flat area. number two, it is going to attract a lot of newspapers and other flying objects that will fly around and you will have one employee spending most of their time picking the junk off of those things, i think that a flatter type of foliage would be practical and if you are going to have a few taller trees and paik them some of it less apt to catch garbage and also maybe make them month minimal and there will more space and light. because you are trying to capture as much light as you can. the same token, i think that there is a rendering of the space between floors, where you have some planters and it looked kind of wild grass coming out of there, again a little tall. you might be better be having more colorful like annuals these are just minor points and i think that it will lighten it up a little as is typically the case in many areas, we don't have as many in san francisco, we we have planter boxes outside of window and they are colorful in cities and it adds
makes it impossible for the people to use that area because they can't sit down there or use the space if it is not a flat area. number two, it is going to attract a lot of newspapers and other flying objects that will fly around and you will have one employee spending most of their time picking the junk off of those things, i think that a flatter type of foliage would be practical and if you are going to have a few taller trees and paik them some of it less apt to catch garbage and also maybe...
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individualized, i think has a lot of promise, but me *f my question is is this going to come before us for some kind of discussion in the future? >> commissioner, i believe that legislation was already introduced and it has already been one hearing on it, i don't know the schedule at this point, the hearing was continued and i don't have the dates, ann marie is out today, she had a death in the family so i can check with the other legislative staff with that but i don't know the date of continuance, we can check with the supervisor's office on the schedule and we can figure out if there's time. >> it would be nice to have time to have a discussion to entertain public comment and the input from the other commissioners on this issue which i think is an important one. thank you. >> commissioner borden? >> hi, i happen to go by two interesting events, one of which was sf hon dough at the corner of innis had a reopening event, it was a family that had that facility for more than 40 years, so they modernized it and hon dough is making a great investment of them being an anchor and them stayi
individualized, i think has a lot of promise, but me *f my question is is this going to come before us for some kind of discussion in the future? >> commissioner, i believe that legislation was already introduced and it has already been one hearing on it, i don't know the schedule at this point, the hearing was continued and i don't have the dates, ann marie is out today, she had a death in the family so i can check with the other legislative staff with that but i don't know the date of...
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the only time that we heard of it was when it came back to the land use committee. when we objected to the area, they passed it on anyway as they have always done with those of us who live and breathe in bayview hunter's point. i would like to say there was an eir done, it was done by the health department and i disagree with what they presented to the staff here because of the fact when the eir was done, it was not done on the sight of 5433rd street, it was done a block away. i had three deaths in my family within the last two weeks from cancer, a young lady, 30 years of age died from asthma, as you know in my community, it's the worst in the city, in the united states of my people dying, the community have changed and i don't know what happened. i used to be able to receive -- when you have in your meetings, agendas, i'm still alive, in fact, i would like to say this, i wish that you bring this back to the floor dealing with the discretionary review, you're going to have other people talking about what's happening. my daughter sent you all an invitation next week,
the only time that we heard of it was when it came back to the land use committee. when we objected to the area, they passed it on anyway as they have always done with those of us who live and breathe in bayview hunter's point. i would like to say there was an eir done, it was done by the health department and i disagree with what they presented to the staff here because of the fact when the eir was done, it was not done on the sight of 5433rd street, it was done a block away. i had three...
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detailed budget to look at in materials of line items, and i don't know if you've seen those, but we used to have them that were pages long and it was rather interesting to see by line item what the expenditures were for staff and other things. >> are you referring to the work program with like the fte counts? >> yes. >> and i think that addresses commissioner moore's question also, in two weeks, your memo will have that level of detail where it shows the proposed fte count widths the initiatives, if you want the actual dollar amounts, i can provide you with what you need. >> commissioner moore? >> i would like to add a comment that in the past year, since this is not our standard everyday literature, just reading it, it is more difficult to understand and then having to vote on it after you make a presentation sometimes raises more questions than answers so i'm wondering if we could spread that with the presentation and then vote in on it a week later or something like that. i always feel a little bit overwhelmed because it's so hard to understand. >> if i may, today is just an informati
detailed budget to look at in materials of line items, and i don't know if you've seen those, but we used to have them that were pages long and it was rather interesting to see by line item what the expenditures were for staff and other things. >> are you referring to the work program with like the fte counts? >> yes. >> and i think that addresses commissioner moore's question also, in two weeks, your memo will have that level of detail where it shows the proposed fte count...
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and residential use alt the 1 henry adams site, they would be 68 feet tall, the eastern most portion would be a partial fulfillment of the inclusionary housing requirements. up to 150 units of affordable housing would be constructed on that portion of the 801 brannan site, there are three project variance proposed, variant 1 would include new construction of two mixed use and retail building on the 801 brannan site which variance 3 would also include two buildings on the 801 brannan site, but variance 1 and 2 would not change development on the 1 henry adams site from what is proposed on the project but would not include land dedication to the city. total development would include 1 million 187 thousand 943 gross square feet with up to 824 residential units, approximately 54 thousand 600 retail space and 866 parking spaces, since publication of the draft eir, variance three is the proposed project, a copy of the draft eir certification motion is before you, the public hearing on the draft eir was held on july 28, 2011. the public comment period closed. it was published and distribute
and residential use alt the 1 henry adams site, they would be 68 feet tall, the eastern most portion would be a partial fulfillment of the inclusionary housing requirements. up to 150 units of affordable housing would be constructed on that portion of the 801 brannan site, there are three project variance proposed, variant 1 would include new construction of two mixed use and retail building on the 801 brannan site which variance 3 would also include two buildings on the 801 brannan site, but...
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at&t park, wonderful asset for us. they also built a new football stadium a few hundred yards or maybe 1000 yards or so away from camden yard at the end of train yards a great benefit for the city of baltimore. i commend them for their vision in this issue and i'm happy for them even though i am very sad for us having lost the game. i have to acknowledge some of the leadership and some good choices that were made fast that set the tone for stadiums being within the middle of cities. >>: commissioner moore, now you know. >> commissioner moore: there must be baltimore leaings seeing city attorney -- high at commissioner wu also wearing purple. speaking about potential redesigns of the lower floors of the trans-bay tower, i also heard that -- might be looking for a building we approved on the corner of mission and beale i think. mission freemont. any of those streets. if there are updates as they pertain to changes in buildings i think the commission would be very interested to get a general update from you on those matte
at&t park, wonderful asset for us. they also built a new football stadium a few hundred yards or maybe 1000 yards or so away from camden yard at the end of train yards a great benefit for the city of baltimore. i commend them for their vision in this issue and i'm happy for them even though i am very sad for us having lost the game. i have to acknowledge some of the leadership and some good choices that were made fast that set the tone for stadiums being within the middle of cities....
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this week at the land-use committee hearing they had the car sharing parking ordinance sponsored by supervisor wiener. he wanted to allow south side spaces such as parking lots that had been in place for at least a year, they wanted the same number of spaces. he wanted to cap the maximum for residential and commercial buildings, and requiring signage for the spaces. he wanted to ensure that these spaces will be allowed for projects not seeking a cu. wanted to provide the planning department with more enforcement excitation power. -- -- our department has been asked to develop the signage requirement for the car share spaces. there were three speakers in opposition and one speaker in support. board president chu expressed concern over enforcement but stated enthusiasm for the potential development of new enforcement measures. it was recommended for approval by the full board. we have a host of new ordinances and hearing requests. first for the commission and the historic reservation commission supervisor wiener has introudced a version of the ordinance this week, seeking sequa (sounds like) app
this week at the land-use committee hearing they had the car sharing parking ordinance sponsored by supervisor wiener. he wanted to allow south side spaces such as parking lots that had been in place for at least a year, they wanted the same number of spaces. he wanted to cap the maximum for residential and commercial buildings, and requiring signage for the spaces. he wanted to ensure that these spaces will be allowed for projects not seeking a cu. wanted to provide the planning department...
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it acquires a conditional use to expand. the department has received one additional comment with concerns alleging the business' continued violation. the department has not found the business to be in violation of the conditions of approval based on site visits conducted by the enforcement staff in response to each complaint. elimination of the bookstore and expansion of the restaurant will not result in the loss. the project will not affect the concentration of eating or drinking establishments. the business will not serve alcohol for on-site consumption and the project will enable locally owned and operated businesses to continue serving the north beach community. based on these findings, the department recommends you approve the project with conditions. that concludes my presentation and i am available for questions. thank you. >> president fong: project sponsor? >>: good afternoon commissioner fong, commissioners. i'm here to represent santo esposito. i have 16 additional letters of support that i would like to submit. >
it acquires a conditional use to expand. the department has received one additional comment with concerns alleging the business' continued violation. the department has not found the business to be in violation of the conditions of approval based on site visits conducted by the enforcement staff in response to each complaint. elimination of the bookstore and expansion of the restaurant will not result in the loss. the project will not affect the concentration of eating or drinking...
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these big institutions use return on cost parameters; napf uses a 6% return. even with this approval we are down to 5.8% which is risky for a construction project. we have to go back to napf to get approval under the new construction budget. we got approval on monday night after putting four million dollars of cash in the deal. please convey to them that the 12 percent requirement was a key component in both equity and debt financing for the project. we have formal approval from nabf that they will go to the next step. if this does not get approved, this will stay as an office building is what i think will happen. this is the latest cac analysis
these big institutions use return on cost parameters; napf uses a 6% return. even with this approval we are down to 5.8% which is risky for a construction project. we have to go back to napf to get approval under the new construction budget. we got approval on monday night after putting four million dollars of cash in the deal. please convey to them that the 12 percent requirement was a key component in both equity and debt financing for the project. we have formal approval from nabf that they...
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all bunch of us work hard to get through prop c. we are the first folks to come to you and we need this approval. we don't have a project if we don't have this approval. we will start this project in the next two weeks if we get the approval. that's it. 12 minutes. not a very good presentation, i apologize. >>: calling for public comment. i have one speaker card. paula richard. >>: good afternoon. i am paula richard. i work with plant construction. i have been at plant for about 13 years, construction manager and vice president on this project if there is a project. i was asked to take a minute and reiterate what is in my letter. we bid out all of the subcontract work, probably 50 subcontractors ready to go as well once the project goes forward. if you're not familiar with plant construction we want to point out a couple of things. we are a san francisco company company, we been here for 65 years. of the next 26 months there will 521,000 man hours translated in the range of 125 people average per day and up to 200 workers at the pea
all bunch of us work hard to get through prop c. we are the first folks to come to you and we need this approval. we don't have a project if we don't have this approval. we will start this project in the next two weeks if we get the approval. that's it. 12 minutes. not a very good presentation, i apologize. >>: calling for public comment. i have one speaker card. paula richard. >>: good afternoon. i am paula richard. i work with plant construction. i have been at plant for about 13...
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all these things are used. we are talking about the two percent now, maybe not even that high. >> commissioner borden: in terms of inspections, you do a sound inspection. is that done in conjunction % like a friday night or saturday night and surprise people know you are coming. obviously if you know the inspector is coming you will turn your music down. if you don't know the inspector is coming you would not necessarily do so. >>: that's a very good question. there are several kinds of inspections that we do. we do a sound section or site inspection. we set an appointment with the applicant; we going, it is a formal test. it would do an inspection based on complaint we do not let them know we're coming obviously we would derail why we were there. that is a surprise inspection, a field inspection. anytime during operating hours we have the ability and right to show up. that is predominantly for a complaint. anyone who has been permitted by us would like to do a follow-up; maybe several months after they have be
all these things are used. we are talking about the two percent now, maybe not even that high. >> commissioner borden: in terms of inspections, you do a sound inspection. is that done in conjunction % like a friday night or saturday night and surprise people know you are coming. obviously if you know the inspector is coming you will turn your music down. if you don't know the inspector is coming you would not necessarily do so. >>: that's a very good question. there are several...
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they are operating as an accessory use. by definition the limited use is limited to square feet and not past 10. it is subject to conditions imposed by the commission. limited live also by definition is a secondary purpose of the establishment. this would give them more flexibly. planning commission has the ability to limit the hours of operation. >>: do we have the ability to limit the decibel limit? >>: the planning commission has no past. >>: in terms of some of the information received from the project sponsor and the sound consultant, i have a question with respect to the first hand that we received. it says set at 93 to 94 decibels. >>: that is a limiter. >>: i understand what that is. how does that compare with the entertainment commissions's 74 decibels. >>: we were not finished with our installation. when he did the sound test, it was set at 74. because we have live entertainment we want to go beyond that. we want to make it so good that we don't want any sound leak at all. >>: how do we do that? >>: he went to the
they are operating as an accessory use. by definition the limited use is limited to square feet and not past 10. it is subject to conditions imposed by the commission. limited live also by definition is a secondary purpose of the establishment. this would give them more flexibly. planning commission has the ability to limit the hours of operation. >>: do we have the ability to limit the decibel limit? >>: the planning commission has no past. >>: in terms of some of the...
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that is something that maybe staff can help us on. in the past we have required to the conditional use process soundproofing and the like. how can we do that in the continuance process? >>: excellent question. it has been pointed out that there may be problems with the report given to you. >> commissioner borden: right. >>: we do have acoustical engineers who can come to some conclusions that are identical and determine what the impacts are in working with the academic commission to make sure the proposal does not violate the noise ordinance. >> commissioner borden: as you know at this level, you can keep the music below those levels. it seemed to me like a no-brainer analysis. >>: there were a couple of different things that were done, reorient the speakers, move the stage, also soundproofing done to the interior. i have not seen the building permits i don't know exactly what was done. >> commissioner borden: if i could ask one quick question to the project sponsor. was it done after the most recent complaint? >>: we took the extra p
that is something that maybe staff can help us on. in the past we have required to the conditional use process soundproofing and the like. how can we do that in the continuance process? >>: excellent question. it has been pointed out that there may be problems with the report given to you. >> commissioner borden: right. >>: we do have acoustical engineers who can come to some conclusions that are identical and determine what the impacts are in working with the academic...
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use to the castro country club. pursuant to -- i'm sorry -- the country club with the second floor outdoor activity area. and that basically the department would still maintain the original recommendation for approval. this is for a recommendation for approval for the proposed restaurant on the ground floor. it is not a formula retail use, but rather an independent, locally-owned business. it is designed to serve residents from the neighborhood, and patrons of other businesses on castro or 18th street and it's not a destination restaurant. no. 3, it contributes to the economic vitality of the neighborhood by developing an underutilized garage floor into an active commercial storefront, while not removing any existing neighborhood serving uses no. 4 it is well-served by public transit and it should have a negligible impact on the current traffic pattern on the surrounding streets. and no. 5, it will operate between 8-10 job openings for city residents. the recommendation for approval of the legalization of the costa
use to the castro country club. pursuant to -- i'm sorry -- the country club with the second floor outdoor activity area. and that basically the department would still maintain the original recommendation for approval. this is for a recommendation for approval for the proposed restaurant on the ground floor. it is not a formula retail use, but rather an independent, locally-owned business. it is designed to serve residents from the neighborhood, and patrons of other businesses on castro or 18th...
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, retail sales, financial service with a conditional use and medical service. >> so restaurant-type use? >> a restaurant would not be allowed on the second level in the castro neighborhood commercial district, no. >> do you want to respond? do you use this space outside now at 10:00 at night? would it be a hardship? >> currently our hours are until 11:00 monday through thursday, until midnight friday and saturdays and 10:00 on sundays, but any noise that we have out back is negligible compared to the noise of the back patio of the mixed bar, which is three doors down, which is like being at a dance party. >> do you use the back patio now at all hours that you are open? >> very minimally. >> so i'm all right with that. >> thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> mr. sanchez, how many people are allowed to gather on the deck based on structural? >> i do not have the expertise to answer that. it's a building code requirement and perhaps the architect could answer what the load is? >> people quietly conversing is one thing, but with 20 people hollering, that is a different thing. i don't know t
, retail sales, financial service with a conditional use and medical service. >> so restaurant-type use? >> a restaurant would not be allowed on the second level in the castro neighborhood commercial district, no. >> do you want to respond? do you use this space outside now at 10:00 at night? would it be a hardship? >> currently our hours are until 11:00 monday through thursday, until midnight friday and saturdays and 10:00 on sundays, but any noise that we have out back...
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seeing no objection that will be the order i don't madame are there any other items before us? >>> no, there are not. >> then we are adjourned. thank you. welcome do san franci plankings commission regular meeting for thursday january 31, 2013. please be aware that the commission does not tolerate any disruption or out bursts of any kind, silence any mobile devices that may sound off during the proceedings. if you would like to speak on an general deed item, please fill out a speaker's card and speak directly into the microphone and please state your name for the record. commissioner president fong. commissioner antonini. >> commissioner wu? commissioner burden, commissioner hillis, moore and sugaya? >> commissioners first on your calendar are items proposed for continuance. i only have one item number 8 under your director's report, the planning commission policy on impinging product implementation is proposed for continuance to february 28, 2013. >> i have no speaker cards. >> did you want to make a comment to that at all? >> yeah, just that we would like a little more time t
seeing no objection that will be the order i don't madame are there any other items before us? >>> no, there are not. >> then we are adjourned. thank you. welcome do san franci plankings commission regular meeting for thursday january 31, 2013. please be aware that the commission does not tolerate any disruption or out bursts of any kind, silence any mobile devices that may sound off during the proceedings. if you would like to speak on an general deed item, please fill out a...
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other issues for us have to do with parking issues. we understand there's certain zoning and regulations but we think the reality is although transit first is a good thing, if we have residents moving into this area, especially many of them coming into the city from out of the area, you know, probably takes jobs in the high-tech sector, they're probably going to have cars with thel, whether or not they use them to commute on a daily basis is one thing, we're wondering where these cars will be parked. we don't have available street parking for the small businesses and the customers that are there right now, so we are concerned that there will be parking issues as a result of this construction. a lot of our clients in that area are designers, they come from all over northern california, they have to drive there so we're concerned that will put further stress on the businesses in the area and finally, pdr zoning, 1 henry adams street sets a precedent of the pdr zoning in that area, with select buildings in the area, with zinga and now the
other issues for us have to do with parking issues. we understand there's certain zoning and regulations but we think the reality is although transit first is a good thing, if we have residents moving into this area, especially many of them coming into the city from out of the area, you know, probably takes jobs in the high-tech sector, they're probably going to have cars with thel, whether or not they use them to commute on a daily basis is one thing, we're wondering where these cars will be...
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the sud and the conditional use entitlements will allow us to remove the two tunnel boring machines from the pagoda palace site at 1731-41 palace street instead of our previous plan or current plan to remove them from columbus avenue in front of washington square park. the plan was to remove them from the public right-of-way, but in response to community concerns raised with the disruption that would cause to the north beach community, we began looking for alternatives to that plan and looking at ones in particular that would reduce the disruption that would impact the north beach community. we identified four different -- we narrowed our search down to four different options. we went with president chiu to the community in november and presented those options, presented the pros and conses as we saw them with each. and of those the pagoda palace option removing the tunnel boring machines from the pagoda site as opposed to from the public right-of-way was the one that both had community support and the one that would not inhibit a future project. * the community was supportive of a few d
the sud and the conditional use entitlements will allow us to remove the two tunnel boring machines from the pagoda palace site at 1731-41 palace street instead of our previous plan or current plan to remove them from columbus avenue in front of washington square park. the plan was to remove them from the public right-of-way, but in response to community concerns raised with the disruption that would cause to the north beach community, we began looking for alternatives to that plan and looking...
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i don't believe that you can consider a conditional use for various uses that right now are not permitted under the code. section 121.2 provides in the north beach ncd, nonresidential use sizes of 4,000 feet and above are not permitted. i don't think you can consider a 4700 square foot thing until the law has been changed. section 7 80.3 is implicated, as is section 22 1.1. the bottom line here is that i believe as a matter of law, commissioners, respectfully you have the cart before the horse and you cannot adopt this matter until the law has changed in such a way that you can issue the conditional use. * thank you for considering my comments. >>> tough act to follow. commissioners, my name is richard hammond, long-time resident of north beach. and a couple of decades ago in my capacity as a concrete contractor and a foundation contractor, i dug a tunnel under bake man broadway for parking garage. you can see it when the garage doors open. i did another one down the street, another long tunnel, 30, 40 feet. i did one on larkin street. there is nothing exotic about the -- in construction
i don't believe that you can consider a conditional use for various uses that right now are not permitted under the code. section 121.2 provides in the north beach ncd, nonresidential use sizes of 4,000 feet and above are not permitted. i don't think you can consider a 4700 square foot thing until the law has been changed. section 7 80.3 is implicated, as is section 22 1.1. the bottom line here is that i believe as a matter of law, commissioners, respectfully you have the cart before the horse...
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in terms of why we use conditional use necessary or desirable, you know, we had a special use district for booker t. washington, for higher height district. we decided it was necessary and desirable for the type of housing community it was providing. we also approved that sud prior to the board of supervisors taking action on it. so, it's not as if this is unusual situation. i would say that the completion of this project is necessary and desirable for the city and we've already invested the funds. commissioner sugaya brought up a good point. one of the shortcomings of this project all along was that it didn't extend all the way to fisherman's wharf. if we had the opportunity, the boring machines in north beach and set up at least a north beach station and poe lebanontionv any in the future be able to explore a fisherman's wharf station, it makes a lot of sense to me that we would want to make that preference. the other thing i wanted to point out is that in terms of the sud we've discussed, it has an expiration date on it. this is not an incident sud. so, it's not like other sud's we
in terms of why we use conditional use necessary or desirable, you know, we had a special use district for booker t. washington, for higher height district. we decided it was necessary and desirable for the type of housing community it was providing. we also approved that sud prior to the board of supervisors taking action on it. so, it's not as if this is unusual situation. i would say that the completion of this project is necessary and desirable for the city and we've already invested the...
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specifically the departments are asked to report on the rationale for using this revenue for uses other than satisfying the transportation related needs on and around octavia boulevard as well as resolutions for meeting both the area's significant transit needs as well as affordable houseving needs. another hearing request by supervisor scott wiener and david chiu was introduced at the board requesting the mta, the department of public works, the planning department and the san francisco county transit authority to provide an update on the better market street project including schedule and progress on improving enter agency coordination and the proposal to construct the separated bike lane on mission street. * both hearings are tentatively scheduled for march 11, 2013. and that's pretty much all. if you have any questions, i'd be happy to answer. thanks. >> doesn't appear to be any questions. thank you. next item, please. >> board of appeals last night had a pretty lengthy hearing, a couple items that might be of interest to the commission would be a rehearing request for a letter of d
specifically the departments are asked to report on the rationale for using this revenue for uses other than satisfying the transportation related needs on and around octavia boulevard as well as resolutions for meeting both the area's significant transit needs as well as affordable houseving needs. another hearing request by supervisor scott wiener and david chiu was introduced at the board requesting the mta, the department of public works, the planning department and the san francisco county...
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we can't say you can't use blue, you can't use your logo or your name, of course, but we can work with them to reduce the lighting level so that it's not a garish frankly in the short run. in the longer run, i think it requires some code legislation to put limits. >> i'm supportive of the business and the financial services that chase offers. i wouldn't be opposed to -- i know there is a motion to approve, but i wouldn't be opposed to continuing the item until this can be discussed further about the lighting volume and wattage and intensity of businesses going forward. commissioner moore. >> i would agree with that because if the department is tasked to undertake a study, then any legislation which might go out of it would then be retroactive because the rapid increase in these signs is starting to be annoying, particularly in the areas where you have mixed use and at night the blue light starts to affect people in their units. there have been no complaints, but what i saw walking down grand street made me greatly concerned that later it will affect people at night because of the [spea
we can't say you can't use blue, you can't use your logo or your name, of course, but we can work with them to reduce the lighting level so that it's not a garish frankly in the short run. in the longer run, i think it requires some code legislation to put limits. >> i'm supportive of the business and the financial services that chase offers. i wouldn't be opposed to -- i know there is a motion to approve, but i wouldn't be opposed to continuing the item until this can be discussed...
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the use of the colors, it's a little darker, make things all pale, white, it all looks the same. then again, you can get some colors that look a little too crazy. but, you know, i think that's a part of it. and i mentioned the rounding of corners to try to cut the angularity and might tend to make the buildings a little more attractive. because there are -- you know, it's sort of always going to be a quasi-suburban -- i don't like the term because of the nature of mission bay. it's just going to be different than densely packed city blocks in the financial district or in even the area south of market which are longer blocks, but they're still pretty densely packed with previous industrial buildings. and it's going to have more of a separation. it's going to have more parking. it's going to have a lot of things that are, you know, but i think there are some very successful suburban parks and some that aren't very successful. i mentioned to bo earlier, the hacienda park in pleasanton, if you've seen the architecture, smooth looking buildings and very well landscaped as opposed to s
the use of the colors, it's a little darker, make things all pale, white, it all looks the same. then again, you can get some colors that look a little too crazy. but, you know, i think that's a part of it. and i mentioned the rounding of corners to try to cut the angularity and might tend to make the buildings a little more attractive. because there are -- you know, it's sort of always going to be a quasi-suburban -- i don't like the term because of the nature of mission bay. it's just going...
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city rather than us conforming to whatever their business model is. that's the reason i attended the pre-application meeting and that's why i've been in communication with project sponsors. * ever since then to try to assure that this had a greater street presence to what they originally proposed. bear in mind those fancy architectural renderings you're looking at are only appropriate if you're in a helicopter hovering over the project site. the reality on the ground is blanch street is a one-way street going eastward towards the embarcadaro. and in general, what you will see on the ground is the backside of this project and the blanch street frontage. so, if you do approve this project, please ensure that bryant street gives back something to the community. thank you. * >> thank you. next speaker. >>> hello, my name is rick carp, i'm the president of cole hardware here in san francisco and i'm asking you to please reject this project based on the formula retail issues. it's been my passion since the early '80s to try to keep big box and formula retai
city rather than us conforming to whatever their business model is. that's the reason i attended the pre-application meeting and that's why i've been in communication with project sponsors. * ever since then to try to assure that this had a greater street presence to what they originally proposed. bear in mind those fancy architectural renderings you're looking at are only appropriate if you're in a helicopter hovering over the project site. the reality on the ground is blanch street is a...
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i think because he is used to staff the committee. but, i think that the intent was for the funds, which do not replicate themselves. i mean, i forget the original amount, mr. hillis, around $2 million? >> $2.5 million. >> yes. and then each time there is a grant allocation, then it gets depleted. so i think that we have to treat that some what as a priority for the community to be able to apply for funding. and that is not to say that they are not worthy city projects too. but i just want to comment on the 250. it seems aufully large to me. having dealt with design guidelines in the past and especially with respect to historic areas. and i don't want to get into a debate about it. but i would ask the department to take a more serious look at what the ultimate cost will be. >> it is likely that some level of environmental review will be necessary, and if it is an nir it has to be more than that, but i am hopefully we will able to do it within that. >> there was one other question that a member of the public posed to me and that was ap
i think because he is used to staff the committee. but, i think that the intent was for the funds, which do not replicate themselves. i mean, i forget the original amount, mr. hillis, around $2 million? >> $2.5 million. >> yes. and then each time there is a grant allocation, then it gets depleted. so i think that we have to treat that some what as a priority for the community to be able to apply for funding. and that is not to say that they are not worthy city projects too. but i...
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it is not the extraction site as an interim use. i support contemplation of planning and considering various locations for the extension of the subway, something we have talked about many years ago. my commissioner here is saying we are having [speaker not understood] discussion is very possible. [speaker not understood] i saw commissioner hillis making it sound as if we are circular. that's very possible. the concern with everything justin said today has not been alleviated and i unfortunately as much as i would like to be supportive of the transportation part cannot support what is in front of us. >> commissioners, there is a motion and a second to adopt the request for zoning text amendment and height reclassification for 1731 powell street. commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> no. >> commissioner sugaya? >> no. i just have to note also that when i said i didn't have any plan -- we didn't have any plan, i don't have any plans. so, commissioner moo
it is not the extraction site as an interim use. i support contemplation of planning and considering various locations for the extension of the subway, something we have talked about many years ago. my commissioner here is saying we are having [speaker not understood] discussion is very possible. [speaker not understood] i saw commissioner hillis making it sound as if we are circular. that's very possible. the concern with everything justin said today has not been alleviated and i unfortunately...
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. * so, you have a use of colors, a use of different materials, some being more glassy, some being a more punched dynamic. and with that you get a sense, even though there is a pattern to the site, they each have their own character ask identity. and i'll just take you around as we rotate around the building site south. that was the east. this is now the southeast looking up from one of the park locations across the street just south of the medical center. * rotating around to the southwest from 2 80. around to the west elevation. we're showing the freeway transparent here. freeway actually isn't. all the things below that will be hidden from view, but we know there had been discussion in the past the fact that might change. we've been equally thoughtful about the west elevation that would have a good he is theyth if i can that were to ever occur. and then at the northwest corner coming in along 16th street. and finally the northeast vantage. i kept it brief because i know you have a complete package. i want to say it's been a real pleasure working with the planning staff. where we s
. * so, you have a use of colors, a use of different materials, some being more glassy, some being a more punched dynamic. and with that you get a sense, even though there is a pattern to the site, they each have their own character ask identity. and i'll just take you around as we rotate around the building site south. that was the east. this is now the southeast looking up from one of the park locations across the street just south of the medical center. * rotating around to the southwest...
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down because it's affecting the small businesses of san francisco and that's what the formula use business legislation was in there before -- was signed up for. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >>> good afternoon, i own center hardware. center hardware has been in business -- >> excuse me, sir, if you can state your name for the record. >>> i'm sorry, my name is keith gantner and i own center hardwarement center hardware the earliest records i have are from about 1880. so, we've been around a long time. i haven't been there quite that long. i did a little homework. i went on orchard supply's website and i went to their career page and i pulled up over 300 job openings at this time. 44 of those 300 were for corporate people, people are going to work in their san jose, in their main office, accountants, actuarial people, what have you. 19 of them was for sales lead full-time positions, full time 30 hours plus. all the rest were 29 hours or less, part-time, temporary or part time or temporary positions every, every job opportunity was a part-time or temporary opportunity. it d
down because it's affecting the small businesses of san francisco and that's what the formula use business legislation was in there before -- was signed up for. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >>> good afternoon, i own center hardware. center hardware has been in business -- >> excuse me, sir, if you can state your name for the record. >>> i'm sorry, my name is keith gantner and i own center hardwarement center hardware the earliest records i have...
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result in a cumulatively considerable contribution to the significant and unavoidable cumulative land use impact identified in the eastern neighborhoods's eir with respect to pvr land supply, it would result in a cumulatively considerable to significant and cumulative transportation at five intersections, and health risk related to toxic air contaminants. therefore, the commission would need to adopt a statement of overriding considerations pursuant to the california environmental quality act, we could request the commission adopt the project before you, and to which the final eir was prepared, it's with the ceqa guidelines. this concludes my presentation on the matter unless the commission members have any comments? >> commissioner antonini? >> thank you for your comments and particular reference and i was going to make the same comment in regards to responses to public comment and as i understand it and you pointed out under ceqa, you can't take into consideration the impact that something that is conceptual has not been funded or analyzed, it's the other way around, when that particula
result in a cumulatively considerable contribution to the significant and unavoidable cumulative land use impact identified in the eastern neighborhoods's eir with respect to pvr land supply, it would result in a cumulatively considerable to significant and cumulative transportation at five intersections, and health risk related to toxic air contaminants. therefore, the commission would need to adopt a statement of overriding considerations pursuant to the california environmental quality act,...